tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4242408484763644333.post267639887224838919..comments2024-03-01T01:36:41.620+13:00Comments on The Hinton Spieler.: Back to BasesWellington Manhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08295966991101976478noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4242408484763644333.post-28721230530381916842017-06-07T20:03:49.836+12:002017-06-07T20:03:49.836+12:00It can be a little tricky, Captain. I always do a ...It can be a little tricky, Captain. I always do a dry run on the bases before sticking them down, trying out various angles. You'll soon find what looks right for you.Wellington Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08295966991101976478noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4242408484763644333.post-45306269202881443052017-06-07T14:58:43.345+12:002017-06-07T14:58:43.345+12:00How do you position your figures so that the bases...How do you position your figures so that the bases touch without the bayonets sticking the rank in front? Captain Nolanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12258683012806342747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4242408484763644333.post-59600498376374433412016-08-09T13:14:21.295+12:002016-08-09T13:14:21.295+12:00Ingenious. I'm not sure if it would be right f...Ingenious. I'm not sure if it would be right for these guys however - I'd be terribly worried about them falling out. They have tremendously fragile bayonets.Wellington Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08295966991101976478noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4242408484763644333.post-41576035719098602072016-08-07T19:28:29.592+12:002016-08-07T19:28:29.592+12:00Another basing option that seems popular with 28mm...Another basing option that seems popular with 28mm fantasy players is irregular shaped movement trays with round holes into which you slot the individual figure. That way a unit of 24 can be accommodated on just a few trays. See here for an example http://war-bases.co.uk/image/cache/catalog/cache/data/Trays/4a-500x500.jpg Wargamer Stuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05108623245011101004noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4242408484763644333.post-60696000825934139652016-08-07T19:26:11.689+12:002016-08-07T19:26:11.689+12:00My own reading suggests it was pretty rare with &q...My own reading suggests it was pretty rare with "skirmish battalions" much more likely to send a few companies forward with a close-order reserve to provide support and allow rotations. Wargamer Stuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05108623245011101004noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4242408484763644333.post-81283269287110072932016-07-25T00:29:08.826+12:002016-07-25T00:29:08.826+12:00Cheers, Paul. I claim none of the creditCheers, Paul. I claim none of the creditWellington Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08295966991101976478noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4242408484763644333.post-77571547414274265262016-07-24T23:44:57.101+12:002016-07-24T23:44:57.101+12:00A smashing looking unit, I like the idea so much t...A smashing looking unit, I like the idea so much that I am going to use the same idea with my own skirmishers, will also use this for British rifles & Prussian jaegers etc.<br /><br />Look forward to more French troops.<br /><br />PaulAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4242408484763644333.post-21870071462612558902016-07-24T12:26:39.257+12:002016-07-24T12:26:39.257+12:00I did consider that option, James, and who knows, ...I did consider that option, James, and who knows, I may still do it. It's what Grant, Gilder and so many of the other classic pioneers used to do. However, as my armies are so risibly miniscule I wanted the option of extra close-battalions!Wellington Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08295966991101976478noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4242408484763644333.post-9916371267716049522016-07-24T12:16:21.550+12:002016-07-24T12:16:21.550+12:00Most importantly, the figures look grand and the b...Most importantly, the figures look grand and the basing is a fine compromise for the tabletop—I too detest moving individual figures!<br />(You could commit a small number of figures on larger 'skirmish' bases, say three figs per battalion, but you probably don't want to have them thus fixe-ed. Using 1/72nd plastics we have the luxury of economy that allows such things).James Fisherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17897755636246185173noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4242408484763644333.post-89435581826351370082016-07-24T12:12:17.432+12:002016-07-24T12:12:17.432+12:00Oh yeah, and the 'voltigeurs', so called b...Oh yeah, and the 'voltigeurs', so called by Petre, successfully contested the Sortlack wood against the Russian jägers, presumably as skirmishers.James Fisherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17897755636246185173noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4242408484763644333.post-58727602609662498752016-07-24T12:00:31.637+12:002016-07-24T12:00:31.637+12:00This is music to my ears, James, as I've been ...This is music to my ears, James, as I've been plotting combined grenadier battalions too! They look lovely, which is no doubt why one used to see so many of them on the tabletops of yoreWellington Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08295966991101976478noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4242408484763644333.post-31512109060575472872016-07-24T11:49:55.801+12:002016-07-24T11:49:55.801+12:00Oudinot's 'grenadiers' in 1807 were a ...Oudinot's 'grenadiers' in 1807 were a combination of flank companies from ligne and légère battalions, so grenadiers, voltigeurs, carabiniers & voltigeurs respectively. See George Napziger's article about them on the Napoleon Series:<br />http://www.napoleon-series.org/military/organization/c_oudinotgren.html<br />He follows on with the converged battalions in Spain.<br />Also his army lists, such as 807AXC, 807AXD, 807BXA, 807BXB<br />http://usacac.army.mil/CAC2/CGSC/CARL/nafziger/index.aspJames Fisherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17897755636246185173noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4242408484763644333.post-45673850215123025442016-07-24T07:24:00.209+12:002016-07-24T07:24:00.209+12:00Cheers 'Lee. I took a bit of a risk with this ...Cheers 'Lee. I took a bit of a risk with this lot, but I think the DKs (which are all but four of them) work quite well with the Hinton Hunts.Wellington Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08295966991101976478noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4242408484763644333.post-88212857906322016632016-07-24T07:19:06.131+12:002016-07-24T07:19:06.131+12:00Thank you, Ian. I knew you'd understand.Thank you, Ian. I knew you'd understand.Wellington Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08295966991101976478noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4242408484763644333.post-56694846892979046272016-07-24T07:16:36.773+12:002016-07-24T07:16:36.773+12:00Yes Please! That sound like vindication! This is m...Yes Please! That sound like vindication! This is most surprising and gratifying, Foy, as any resemblance between the Hinton Spieler and history is more or less entirely coincidental!Wellington Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08295966991101976478noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4242408484763644333.post-81501357685406098362016-07-24T01:34:48.535+12:002016-07-24T01:34:48.535+12:00However they are based the paint job looks stunnin...However they are based the paint job looks stunning, you really do have a special touch with these old castings :) 'Lee.https://www.blogger.com/profile/02728400013024811279noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4242408484763644333.post-52135710957808687212016-07-24T00:09:46.001+12:002016-07-24T00:09:46.001+12:00Historial or not they are fine looking troops and ...Historial or not they are fine looking troops and need to find a place on the table. This way there is never an excuse to leave them out of the OOB!Strykerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14258922461691204362noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4242408484763644333.post-63116795657258898472016-07-23T23:02:45.367+12:002016-07-23T23:02:45.367+12:00Have a read of Captain Marcel's memoirs - he w...Have a read of Captain Marcel's memoirs - he was in a voltigeur company of the 69e Ligne in Spain (Foy's Division of VI Corps, in fact!) - he describes the use of converged voltigeurs for each brigade - he identifies a major of the 6e Léger who was in command of this combined group for the brigade.<br /><br />If you are interested, I can send you a pdf by email. For my Napoleonic games, I treat Légère regiments as indistinguishable from the line, and have small supernumerary combined light battalions which do the skirmishing work. MSFoyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14470241067504971068noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4242408484763644333.post-69713419936042575842016-07-23T22:15:05.000+12:002016-07-23T22:15:05.000+12:00LG, you are perfectly correct. It is far from clea...LG, you are perfectly correct. It is far from clear that there was ever such a thing as a combined line voltiguer battalion, let alone one which would coalesce into a close-order unit. However, I decided to take a bit of artistic licence with this one as I wanted to have my cake and to eat it too!Wellington Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08295966991101976478noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4242408484763644333.post-90857754822115881592016-07-23T22:04:01.976+12:002016-07-23T22:04:01.976+12:00Did 'skirmish' battalions really exist? Li...Did 'skirmish' battalions really exist? Light infantry did, of course, but these fine fellows are in line unifirms. I suppose they represent a French division with voltigeurs ordered out from each battalion and given a temporary commander to go operate up in the blue. I doubt they would ever operate as a line unit anyway as, if they retired back on the division then presumably they would rejoin their own line battalions? I await a post from tge Archduke citing chapter and verse where they did form ad hoc voltigeur battalions. Napoleon tried this with grenadiers under Marmont, but did not like the result and so concentrated on building Youg Guard units to orovide a larger elite reserve,The French, of course could put whole line or light battalions into skirmish order as 'grandes bandes' <br />Of course now you have cannily based them so they could perform either as the voltigeur companies in formed light battalions, or as the light companies in battalions formed in line. Lovely paint job, comme toujours.lewisgunnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01935143236897047636noreply@blogger.com